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LG protesters: A bogus argument and a dreadful aftermath?

The title was included with the photo on flicker as reported by Business Insider
The title was included with the photo on flicker as reported by Business Insider

Someone who is protesting the height of the LG building in Englewood Cliffs that sits beyond the limits of the Palisades was accusing me on twitter of posting an unrealistic photo angle of a view of Saint Peter’s University from across the Hudson River in Manhattan…a set of buildings that sits within boundaries of the Palisades.

My concern is why the local local media outlets haven’t fact-checked the protesters claims and they haven’t reported on the ramifications to the environment if LG spreads out their building or worse…what happens if LG leaves

The protesters are against anyone anywhere along the backdrop of the Palisades from being able to build anything that peeks above the tree-line for as long as the eye can see, north of Fort Lee.  They are stating that their view would be spoiled if they can see any part of a structure from across the Hudson River. Those protesters want an unchanged view.

My question is how would any view be any less majestic of the Palisades if a building were in sight…beyond the Palisades.

This photo which was not taken by me or altered in any way by me (photo by Steve Guttman NYC/Flicker) clearly shows that several building at Saint Peter’s University in Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey are clearly visible to people in New York.  These buildings have been here and visible since 1975.

Saint Peter’s University is a magnificent view from across the Hudson River

The main building which is the tallest structure is magnificent and does nothing to detract from the beauty of the Palisades…nor do any of the other buildings at this location.

Additionally there are many more structures of various types and sizes that are equally visible from across the Hudson as you go further north into New York approaching the Tappan Zee Bridge and beyond.

40 million people visit Central Park every year...and wouldn't give up this view for anything.  One partially seen building in NJ won't affect anyone's view of New jersey
40 million people visit Central Park every year…and wouldn’t give up this view for anything. One partially seen building in NJ won’t affect anyone’s view of New jersey

The land and zoning that the protesters want to control is owned by hundreds of thousands of residents, investors and companies and is located in a handful of towns. Their mission is to control what you can do with your land.

I do not profess to understand the real motives of the protesters but when they resort to twisting the facts and maliciously altering their photos to show incredibly unrealistic scenarios, their sincerity has to be questioned.

Fact:

  • LG will not be the only building that can be seen on the Palisades from across the Hudson.  Tens of thousands of buildings sit on, in the middle of and below the Palisades from Jersey City to the Tappan Zee Bridge
  • The LG property sit outside of the Palisades boundary
  • There are only 1 or 2 other properties (both in Englewood Cliffs) that are potentially feasible for high rise development from Englewood Cliffs to the Tappan Zee
  • Most of the other land is either deeded as parks or nature reserves, and all other land is considered worthless for such development
  • Putting an outdated 35′ height limit on future development would lower the value of all commercial real estate and would make the remaining large parcels candidates for other less desirable uses, AND Englewood Cliffs would be out of the running for future development and  investment.  The residents would feel the brunt of higher taxes
  • A New Yorkers view of the Palisades is not paramount to those in New Jersey

I’ll leave with this thought:
If LG decided to pull out of this deal and go somewhere else, will Englewood Cliffs be happier potentially with a big box retail project that could include a Wallmart and Sams Club and other retailers AND including a massive residential component because this is the only viable and vacant site that Englewood Cliffs has to meet their Mount Laural affordable housing obligations…all 1,500 units would have to be part of a high rise community on this one site.

Is this the future of the LG site in Englewood Cliffs
Is this the future of the LG site in Englewood Cliffs

Are the local residents so naive to unknowingly be brought into a blunder of a situation that will place mega tax, traffic and lifestyle ramifications on their community, by those who could care less what happens in its wake if LG leaves this location?

Whatever happens in the end will not change anyone’s lifestyle in New York.  However, what will happen to Englewood Cliffs is an entirely different story.

You won’t like what you get.

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The big lie about the LG project

New York wants to  control New Jersey development laws
New York wants to control New Jersey development laws

As I drove back to New Jersey across the Tappan Zee Bridge I noticed thousands of homes and numerous high rises that have been built all along the Palisades (all in New York I might add) and are clearly visible from the NY side of the eastern banks of the Hudson River.  There are even homes and retail buildings that have been built on piers way out into the water in Piermont New York and all along the base of the Palisades…all in New York.

And homes continue to be built on at the base, into and on top of the Palisades  every year…and most are visible to anyone who chooses to stare at them. People want those views and they pay a premium for the views from these office and retail buildings and from the homes and apartments.

The New Yorkers who are protesting the LG project want the views to themselves and want to deprive New Jersey residents of the same.  They want us only to have a street level view of trees…and only as we pass by them while in a car or on a bike.  They want the great view while leaving us with a crappy roadside view

All of this has happened and continues to happen along the Palisades in New York by New Yorkers. A bit hypocritical don’t you think?

There is a wide splice of this vista that all the noise is about that is already protected from development…people don’t want to live there companies don’t want to relocate there and the property is worthless for development.

What we really have here is that some New Yorkers want to spread out their vista of what they don’t want to see.  They want to change the game.

We already have in place building and zoning restrictions and NOW these outside groups want to spread these restrictions to other areas that adjoin what is already covered.

It’s basically… Wherever it can be seen, we don’t want to see it.

Just imagine if this type of “vista or visual’ zoning existed in Manhattan there would be little or no high rise buildings…especially around Central Park! No One57…or any other buildings around Central Park.

The most expensive real estate in the world isn’t available for anyone in North Jersey to see because of trees.

This will Never happen in New Jersey because of no one wants to be in New Jersey bad enough!

One57: Tell me this isn't a spectacular view from Central Park
One57: Tell me this isn’t a spectacular view from Central Park
New Yorkers die to have a view of highrises. View from One57
New Yorkers die to have a view of highrises. View from One57

These groups really want the public to mistakenly believe that when the LG building is built….”high rises everywhere will immediately begin popping up all within their vista that we want to protect”.

Sorry this will never happen,                                 so get over it!